. bush and the left, if you want to call it that, the center left in the united states, obama has given away more middle class entitlements, the unfunded medicare stuff, things like that. it's partly about the fiscal cliff. it's more about what you guys call the fiscal bliss. >> we're hoping some deal can be struck. it shouldn't be overlooked that what is happening is what is happening in the national conversation about just how much ground americans want to give. you know, how much they want a model so much of what you're talking about in europe. these issues can't be raised separate from talking about, for example, the deficit, separate from talking about the economy because they really all do come together. >> right. and i think that was understood in constructing the constraints in the fiscal cliff because everybody has to give up something. if we go over the cliff, right? so there's across the board sequestration in defense and all kind of things the right doesn't want, either. furthermore, the revenue side is quite heavy in the fiscal cliff. that's why we think in the end they're
